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Never trust a man who doesn’t drink

Son, never trust a man who doesn’t drink because he’s probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They’re the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They’re usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they’re a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can’t trust a man who’s afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how to survive himself. It’s damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he’s heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl.
~James Arthur Crumley (October 12, 1939 – September 17, 2008)
The Wrong Case (1975)

Posted by on September 14, 2011.

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101 Responses

  1. Isn’t he judging people that won’t get drunk?

    by Joey on Sep 15, 2011 at 12:16 am

  2. I’m judging Joey right now.

    by Aaron on Sep 15, 2011 at 3:31 am

  3. Ya Joey. Don’t be a fun sucker.

    by Jeff on Sep 15, 2011 at 4:19 pm

  4. yes, Joey he is judging people who won’t get drunk. he’s also judging people who won’t drink at all. Did you even read it? you are an idiot

    by dan on Sep 15, 2011 at 6:14 pm

  5. This is bullshit.. I use to get drunk all the time.. and kneeling in front of the toilet sucks especially when it happens every time you get drunk..

    getting drunk sucks ..

    by larry on Sep 15, 2011 at 6:57 pm

  6. Just finish your martini, Joey.

    by Tom on Sep 15, 2011 at 7:37 pm

  7. You’re missing the point Larry. It’s not about drinking; It’s about the man who drinks.

    This is a deep philosophical statement about the only trustworthy man is a man who has a true interest in who he is himself.

    Get drunk, be a better human.

    by Mike on Sep 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm

  8. Cool music website some friends and I started. Please check it out.

    by felipe on Sep 15, 2011 at 9:49 pm

  9. Only real human beings get drunk. the rest all aliens

    by Iain on Sep 16, 2011 at 12:38 am

  10. Larry, he is not advocating getting drunk until you kneel to the toilet every time. That my friend is a fault on you. You do not know your own limit and cannot control yourself. So now I am judging you. Get drunk occasionally and do not refuse to have a drink or two because fear of ones natural self is unhealthy.

    by Jake on Sep 16, 2011 at 12:43 am

  11. I’ve long had the same rule about people who’ve never tried drugs of any kind. How uptight do you have to be to make it through high school without at least once taking a toke?

    by Pantagruel on Sep 16, 2011 at 12:44 am

  12. he is totally wrong!!!
    alcohol = heart attack, cholesterol, cancer…

    by JOSH on Sep 16, 2011 at 3:00 am

  13. Dude get drunk, don’t always gotta puke but get loose and meet people stop being such a puss and live life get stoked off somethin

    by jared on Sep 16, 2011 at 4:23 am

  14. Larry must be a light weight…. larry the light weight lol

    by George Ryan on Sep 16, 2011 at 4:55 am

  15. For this to be a proverb of wisdom, this guy is an idiot.

    by Jon on Sep 16, 2011 at 6:48 am

  16. Here is a quote that I love that highlights a similar (if not the same) point:

    “show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually dirty kitchen, and 5 times out of 9 I’ll show you an exceptional man.” “show me a man who lives alone and has a perpetually clean kitchen, and 8 times out of 9 I’ll show you a man with detestable spiritual qualities.”
    ― Charles Bukowski, Tales of Ordinary Madness

    by Brandon on Sep 16, 2011 at 7:44 am

  17. Larry is a pussy who can’t hold his alcohol.

    by Kendal on Sep 16, 2011 at 9:18 am

  18. True story. If you can’t sit down with someone and have a pint then then screw em. time is never wasted when your wasted all the time

    by hank on Sep 16, 2011 at 10:45 am

  19. If I was to refuse to get drunk, the only reason would be to wake up fresh in the morning. Thats pretty sweet as well.

    by Stephen on Sep 16, 2011 at 11:15 am

  20. This is the truest thing I’ve ever heard

    by BEN on Sep 16, 2011 at 11:30 am

  21. What Crumley is pointing out here is that a man who is willing to become uninhibited has nothing to hide and is not frightened of the beast inside himself. Your true personality emerges when you’re drunk, and if you’re a little bitch and have no idea who you are, then you’re going to hesitate to let yourself go. Never forget: “he who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.” – Samuel Johnson.

    by Brooks on Sep 16, 2011 at 2:32 pm

  22. “Get drunk like me and die from kidney disease” fat douchebag crummely

    by name on Sep 16, 2011 at 3:49 pm

  23. Can’t help but notice the gentleman that wrote this only lived to be 69 or so. As a man that thoroughly agrees with his philosophy about who can be trusted, I also couldn’t help but google how he died. Wikipedia states it was a long battle with kidney and pulmonary diseases. Unfortunately it looks like a few of the naysayers here may have a point.

    by Gabe on Sep 16, 2011 at 6:05 pm

  24. Jesus turned water into wine… I guess he should not be trusted? Whatever. It is not saying you should drink until you puke, but you can trust a man that is not afraid to kneel in front of the toilet.

    by Pope on Sep 16, 2011 at 7:06 pm

  25. I find it sad that he feels he has to drink in order to find his true personality. He must be quite a “coward” to not want to be who he really is when he is sober. People who are confident enough to say no to drinking are usually also confident enough to be who they are without having to slurp down poison.

    by Eric on Sep 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm

  26. Everyone who is bashing this guy is being super ignorant. You are just proving his point that those who are afraid to get drunk every now and then are self-righteous assholes. Sure there are long term consequences associated with drinking but who wants to live to 90 if you’ve spent your whole life afraid to take any risks? As a side note, new archaeological findings have shown that the earliest civilizations took root to grow grain in order to distill alcohol so you can thank modern society on a bunch of prehistoric alcoholics =]

    by Patrick on Sep 17, 2011 at 2:33 am

  27. Never trust a man who makes broad generalisations.




    Oh, wait…

    by Nick on Sep 17, 2011 at 2:43 am

  28. That speech sounds like the poor logic from a drunk man

    by Calling the BS on Sep 17, 2011 at 3:27 am

  29. This is a quote from a Crumley novel – not his autobiography. Are you gonna class Sophocles as a motherfucker for writing about Oedipus?

    by Cookie on Sep 17, 2011 at 7:40 am

  30. It’s true that alcohol shortens ones lifespan, but from the lesser end. I’m not saying that drinking is a good thing, however it is one of the few leagal ways to experience artificial happiness. And the sad fact of the matter is that our current society is ALMOST unable to produce naturally happy people.

    by Ott on Sep 17, 2011 at 9:57 am

  31. i think this is a fabulous entry and quotation…

    by tvpnyc on Sep 17, 2011 at 4:12 pm

  32. This man is my new prophet

    by GG_Ride on Sep 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm

  33. Okay for starters most of you who commented on this are d-bags, and the point of this passage went completely over your heads. However chances are you’re a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do but pick apart the meaning of other people’s ideas. There is plenty of truth behind his words, and all you people talking shit are just proving him right.

    by Katie on Sep 17, 2011 at 5:54 pm

  34. In my opinion most of you who commented on this are d-bags, and the meaning in this paragraph went completely over your heads. Chances are you have nothing better to do than pick apart the words of other people and pretty much proving him right.

    by Katie on Sep 17, 2011 at 6:01 pm

  35. Katie is a dumbass. The fact that you read the quote (not a passage, nor paragraph) and over 30 responses, puts you right in a category of “a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do”.

    by Andrey on Sep 18, 2011 at 1:46 am

  36. You know what they say about people who don’t drink, smoke, or do drugs, yeah?

    They don’t actually live longer. It just feels a lot longer.

    by Mischa on Sep 18, 2011 at 6:08 am

  37. alcohol is a depressant not a stimulant, Ott.

    by Ott sucks on Sep 18, 2011 at 1:13 pm

  38. Andrey , don´t be a name caller , a opinion is just a opinion , just posting here ,makes us all dumb asses?
    Someone wasted around here?

    by coolkontrast on Sep 18, 2011 at 1:19 pm

  39. Considering the quote came out of a crime novel, I wonder how out of context all of our responses are.

    by Gilbelithiel on Sep 18, 2011 at 1:44 pm

  40. just wrote this quote on my door.

    by Mike on Sep 19, 2011 at 1:31 am

  41. I really like this quote. I’m definately going to check out the novel. I know I feel pretty friggin humbled when I’m worshipping the porcelain god. That and somewhat desperate to breathe again. I think that getting shit faced and making an idiot of yourself is a stepping stone of a sort. You learn how to regret, manage, and check yourself. Nothing like apologizing to a friend for passing out naked on her porch after puking everywhere to really slam home that you are not as big of a badass as you thought. But hey, did I have fun? Hell yeah. I just had less fun the next time. You can always say “No, I don’t do that.” That being whatever idea someone suggested that you’re sure is going to end badly. But when someone asks “Why not?” I think it’s better to respond with your own experience rather than general negativity for something you were to scared try.

    by katy.s on Sep 19, 2011 at 1:46 am

  42. Drinking is bad.

    by God on Sep 19, 2011 at 2:19 am

  43. Joey, youre a sensitive pussy

    by Kris on Sep 19, 2011 at 2:56 pm

  44. Joey, Larry, and god are all pussies

    by Ben on Sep 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm

  45. isn’t that the most interesting man in the world??

    by stiver on Sep 19, 2011 at 9:38 pm

  46. As a man who gets drunk about every weekend, I say this guy is an idiot. I have many friends that do and don’t drink, and I trust all of them the same because they are my friends. In fact, the people I have found the least trustworthy in my life are the drunks because they would rather party than be there to help me out. Either that, or they steal because they are worthless drunks who failed out of college or spend paycheck to paycheck on booze.

    by B on Sep 21, 2011 at 12:18 am

  47. Larry and Joey are lurkers.

    by Jake on Sep 26, 2011 at 11:50 pm

  48. The fact that so many guys posting comments here are all supporting the same argument shows that this is a loser forum. There is no correct opinion in a forum where the argument is one sided – either pro or con. If it is, then it shows that the forum is not accurate. If you compare this group to the people having an opposing opinion, then this group will be 0.0000000000000000001% of the total. You are a bunch of pathetic folks who dwell on popular beliefs and never have any true convictions of their own. Terrible!!!

    by Marcos on Sep 30, 2011 at 9:57 pm

  49. I agree with JOEY

    by jV on Oct 8, 2011 at 8:37 pm

  50. Yeah, the naysayers commenting are definitely ignorant. Take the factor of drinking out of the quote, and find it’s true meaning. I know the quote is about drinking, but really, it’s not. This quote is about knowing, and understanding one’s self. There was a comment early on to the effect of Crumley being a coward, and not having the courage to know his sober self. This was a particularly ignorant take on the quote, and entirely missing the point. That comment just validates the quote.
    (I’m too drunk to scroll back up and find the name of the commenter)Dude, whoever you are. Most likely a Utah resident. Fuck You!
    Do you have any perception beyond your own little corner of the world? The sober man will never know his true self. If you don’t know what you’re capable of, or what your limitations are, how could you possibly know yourself? One who has made a decision to keep their life free of alcohol, with the exception of a medical reason, is essentially saying “I’m better than people who drink.” They chose to forgo alcohol. Well, why? Do you know anything about it? Oh, you’ve read and heard stories, and you’ve seen the statistics, watched footage of DUI wrecks, and your pastor says…, and you’ve browsed medical reports that have devastating information about it’s toll on the human body? I see, so the answer is no, you don’t KNOW anything about it. This post’s comments are more fascinating than the quote. Naysayers, what you are doing is making a safe, self-righteous decision about your life based on something about which you know nothing, out of fear, or to conform to the standards of your culture. Basically, you’re a robot. I am going to use this quote to screen anyone I meet from now on, it’s a great tool for spotting a phony cocksucker. One more time for emphasis, and because I’m drunk: Fuck You, naysayers! Ahh, fuck it:
    Joey, Josh, Larry, Jon, Name (coward), Gabe (semanticist dickhead), ERIC (that’s the one), Nick, Calling The BS, Ott, Gilbilithiel (So, what’s your point?), B, God, Marcos (Wow, you’re a fuckin’ dick.), JV (Form an opinion, asshole.) Yeah, fuck all of you.



    by lvfrankg on Oct 11, 2011 at 7:51 am

  51. I’ll have a few good, dark beers, but I won’t get drunk. I feel like people forget how awful for your body alcohol is. It’s not a virtue to drink, it makes you less able. What a messed up society where people who don’t drink are seen as whacky.

    by Genesis on Jan 8, 2012 at 1:18 pm

  52. I have drank and done drugs smoked cigarettes all these things almost all my life. I am 31 now and I stopped smoking drinking for 2yrs now, and stopped drugs when I was around 24yrs old. From liquor to dark beers light beers to chain smoking to getting high in which I couldn’t move (marijuana) all in the past. Now to find ones true self when wasted well that’s a complete self experience in its own, and his meaning is just not accurate. I mean some become addicted, some become a happy drunk, some violent, some kill people, some become wife beaters, some make complete fools of them selfs, some die of alchol poisioning, some say stuff that’s hurtful mean harsh cold. Well moving on, one does not know there true self until drunk, this is a self opinion so there is really not one correct answer to this statment or quote. Why? Well when I drank became a happy drunk. I am a goofy happy person in life minus alchol, so when I drank I just became a lil more happier and goofy. So, to find ones true self is like I said an individual thing, its his own opinion, I know my trueself and even when sober I know my trueself, when drunk I know my trueself, yes I done goofy things that I would of been shy of doing when sober, but key word shy, now a days I can do all the goofy things I did drunk off my ass, as I could do sober, its called having fun regardless, I don’t need alchol to let lose, you just gotta find people who respect your decision not to drink, and who pratically don’t care if you drink or don’t drink, I don’t care myself if you drink or don’t, because I don’t judge. It was my own decision to stop drinking. One last thing, if anyone replys with, well I am sure you miss a social drink with someone or having a night out with buddies getting drunk or mildy drunk, list can go on. Yes I miss the aspect of having a social drink, but because society has put this idea in our heads for long long long time, brainwashed in a sense. Do we need alchol to be social nope, some people do or think they do, its all a mental thing in the end. Nowadays I realize I don’t myself need alchol to have fun. I can have as much fun as I did when I drank minus the hangover, vomiting, taking home a random wildabeast, being hungover till 10p.m, joints hurting, dehydration, severe headache, blackouts, driving drunk, getting in fights, public intoxication, eating stuff that would put your ass hole one fire or cause severe diahrrea the next day, well I think you get my idea. Well in the end, his meaning is self opinionated, its all an individual thing, a mental thing as well, and even a family upbringing thing as well, culture society you know all those nick nacks, and for those interested in why I stopped drinking, again I’m 31 now I have been drinking since I was 15. Its now time to start open a new chapter called health, have a family, wake up feeling good rested, but most importantly live a longer healthy life, and let’s see really quick, have better sex when sober, not make fool of self when talking to women when drunk, wake up naked in bath tub, vomit over friends new couch, pass out in front lawn, pass out in bar parking lot, I think y’all get my drift. Well don’t mind the grammar sorry, just making a quick passage. Well cheers my friends, don’t mind me I just have a lime and club soda, or cranberry juice, or a mineral water, as some of my friends would sat (wtf) but ehhh your having fun right yes I am, but I won’t wake up with a hangover ahahahaha. Cheers!!

    by eic on Jan 16, 2012 at 9:21 am

  53. Damn straight.

    Wiki tells me that James Arthur Crumley was “a patron saint of the post-Vietnam private eye novel,” a cross between Raymond Chandler and Hunter S. Thompson. What’s not to love? Moreover, his book The Last Good Kiss has been described as “the most influential crime novel of the last 50 years.”

    Now that’s a man after my own heart. Which I have, on rare occasion, heaved into a dirty toilet. In the most ladylike way, of course. ^_~

    by Dina (@SinsoftheEldest) on Mar 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm

  54. eric, i think you’re missing the point. this quote isn’t so much about drinking or drugs, it is about a man’s true character beneath their control and inhibitions. one often finds that the true nature of a man is revealed in moments when their inhibitions are released. times of great stress and trial would be equally as telling. you’re focusing on the wrong thing. in fact, you inadvertently make his point. you have things in you that are released when you let down your guard that frighten you. you lack an understanding, a deep awareness, and a peace within yourself if in a moment freed of your inhibitions you take up with wildabeasts, and become violent, bemoan the consequences of your overindulgence and even seek blame on society. you are more comfortable believing in your fragile, tenuous facade of control over your primal self, instead of being comfortable with what lies beneath. i would sooner trust a man who has confronted his demons and subdued them, than one who has faced them, fled and never returned.

    by nate on Mar 30, 2012 at 11:52 pm

  55. I love drinking and I have done it all from one drink to throwing up all over the place….

    But I drink because I like it and mostly I am happy and talk and act like a 3 year old.

    So here’s to Maker’s Mark and Wild Turkey and George Dickel and all the rest.

    by Ellison Hunt on Apr 9, 2012 at 7:51 pm

  56. but you shouldn’t trust one that drinks in excess either

    by Abbey on Jun 26, 2012 at 1:33 am

  57. That seems applicable… in 1975.

    by Matt on Aug 10, 2012 at 5:33 pm

  58. I don’t drink, but because I hate hangovers. I stopped drinking when they started to last two days! When the pain outlasts the pleasure, time to stop.

    by Neil Swann on Aug 16, 2012 at 3:00 am

  59. Genesis, you’re really taking the poetry out of what he’s saying and inevitably missing the point. James A. Crumley’s not saying that we should fill ourselves with alcohol; too much of anything is bad for a person. He’s saying that a person that cannot trust himself enough to let go and reveal his true colors, should not be trusted by you.

    by Jason on Aug 26, 2012 at 9:51 pm

  60. One thing I have come to realize that there cant be a hard and fast rule for anything.

    I don’t drink because I never felt like, I never needed to…..I don’t think it could be a parameter of my trustworthiness or for that matter lack of it.

    Also whatever the quote is it doesn’t mean you can trust any person who drinks.

    The logic here I think it wants to put is that the person who drinks are bit clearer in heart since they are allowing their inner to get out of their, whereas the person who don’t drink has a very unexplored and sort of mystic inner since they don’t allow to come out control…..though I have my doubts on it.

    I believe how a person’s inner is can not be judged by his/her drinking/smoking/doping habits.

    by Rahul K on Sep 23, 2012 at 12:48 am

  61. This is total bullish*t. Trustworthiness has nothing to do with whether one drinks, or does not drink. It sounds like wisdom in a quote or on the internet, but only a fool would follow it in real life.

    by ed on Sep 23, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Everybody else just takes themselves too seriously.
    Son, unless you’ve been strung out on smack for 10 days at a time, you haven’t really learned anything in life.

    by Mike Moone on Oct 14, 2012 at 8:08 pm

  63. Mike Moone: Exactly.

    People can say that insanity about anything. Son, never trust a man who refuses to steal because if he won’t help himself, he won’t help you either. Son never trust a man, who hasn’t killed a few people because if he can’t tell who beings here and who doesn’t he is a man without wisdom. Ridiculous.

    by Happy on Nov 14, 2012 at 4:03 pm

  64. guess you are definitely right………..”never drink” men tend to wreck havoc indirectly on planet earth

    by Reginald on Nov 20, 2012 at 7:44 am

  65. I don’t drink frequently because I’m epileptic and can’t mix alcohol with my medication. Sure I have a drink every once in a while, but I’ll never be drunk again. Feel free to follow me around get wire-taps on my phone.

    by Geoffrey on Nov 23, 2012 at 6:46 pm

  66. As regards drinking, we live in a society where you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. It is best not to go out in public where you can be judged either way and only drink in private with the most trusted of acquaintances, if with anyone at all. People are constantly looking for ways to put other people down and the easiest and lamest way they do it is by picking on other people’s drinking habits and turning them into socially useful and profitable slander. These snipers are everywhere. If you don’t drink you are the anti-alcohol Nazi and if you do you are accused of looking for habit sponsorship. Frankly I enjoy sitting back having wine with my dinner and I am not sitting there with a measuring cup to ensure I only take in four ounces. Sitting back are the key words here and I am not going to give any alcohol sniper the privilege of aggravating my relaxed company.

    by Socialmedic on Dec 6, 2012 at 7:05 am

  67. Most of the comments here prove that non-drinkers are self-righteous.

    by George on Dec 8, 2012 at 1:22 pm

  68. Actually it’s the insecurity of the drinkers you should be careful of. Because the nondrinkers don’t really give a fck what you do, as long as it”s someone elses life you damage.

    by 2tor on Dec 11, 2012 at 7:46 am

  69. Why are all you non drinkers even on this booze website?

    by Erin on Dec 11, 2012 at 7:38 pm

  70. Are 95% of you complete morons? He is simply saying that anyone who is not comfortable enough to be their truest, deepest self in front of anyone is untrustworthy. He chooses alcohol as the medium because it happens to have that effect on people. I think this board also proved non-drinkers may be be too self-righteous and defensive. Then again, with a name like Genesis, you have to see that coming.

    by Mike on Dec 12, 2012 at 10:11 am

  71. Ok…. That hit close… And stumble brought me here.

    But to say I don’t drink because I am hiding something BAD is not fair and by getting drunk I will reveal my true nature. seriously??

    by Anand on Dec 13, 2012 at 2:39 am

  72. This pissing match has been going for well over a year. That has to be some kind of a record.

    by Carr on Dec 13, 2012 at 10:28 am

  73. Well alcoholism is a disease, so I would say don’t trust people who never got the cancer, they are full of crap and think they are invincible.

    And don’t trust a man who never got the flu, because he’s probably a robot, and robots cannot be trust, neither as non-drunker.

    by Phil on Dec 25, 2012 at 11:50 am

  74. I really despise self-righteous bastards! Whether a lifelong T-totaler, an ex-drunk on the wagon or a bible-slapping church-goer (I DID NOT say Christian, because a church-goer IS NOT necessarily the same thing)they only spread hate and dissension.

    by Chris on Dec 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm

  75. It isn’t a quote and should not be taken as one..It is just dialogue from a novel that James Arthur Crumley wrote. Not a philosophical expression,just fiction.

    by Thatmanstu on Dec 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm

  76. Dear Sir,

    I somewhat disagree on your comment, not sure about other culture but in India many Hindu culture drinking is prohibited and many folks choose not to drink or never drink so if you someone goes to India you can’t trust anyone? I might be true here but if someone form India who is here may not believe the same ! ..

    by LionKing on Jan 1, 2013 at 2:32 pm

  77. Yes I agree…People should be open minded to differ bad or good

    by Web Tasarım on Jan 11, 2013 at 11:25 am

  78. Ha don’t trust a woman that does drink. The reasons being that 80% of the time they end up puking, crying, slapping, bitching, crying, falling, and scratching. i mean thank you for the free entertainment at the bar. then after they drink more than they should (which is always)100% forget the meaning of self-respect and self-control. this may seem sexist but every guy has been embarrassed by their hammered girlfriend, and has taken a girl home that lets be honest has been so obnoxious you hit and run so you dont have to deal with her in the morning

    by Someone on Jan 22, 2013 at 2:28 pm

  79. Wisdom based off alcohol, scumbag alcohol. What a joke…

    by Trevor on Apr 2, 2013 at 11:19 pm

  80. I don’t drink/smoke or take any other kind of legal/illegal drugs except for music. So I must be the next hitler according to this.
    Just because I choose to keep a clear mind at all points in time, I must be an irrespinsible prick. I believe only a drunk can come up with this logic.

    by sleight on Apr 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm

  81. If you think this is just about drinking then you are the people he is talking about that should not be trusted. Those who do not drink inherently have in the back of their mind that they are better than the people who do, just as I subconsciously think that I am better than the people who do hard drugs. It is not a bad thing to not drink, but the people who have commented here have proven his point.

    by Noneya on Apr 18, 2013 at 2:38 am

  82. All the heavy drinkers I’ve ever known have been a huge disappointment to those who love them and ultimately an even bigger disappointment to themselves. While drunk they think they’re profound and interesting, but they’re always, at best, tedious and boring or just irrational, or, at worst, downright dangerous – the extreme of untrustworthy. I drink moderately and, aside from a few experimental binges when young, never in excess. I just don’t see how being unwilling to make a complete ass of myself in public translates into being untrustworthy. If my style of drinking turns off and turns away the heavy drinkers, all the better. For the most part their resentment of non-drinkers is part of the paranoia that comes from their own self-doubt due to their excesses and the unpleasant consequences that come down later, from spouses, employers, resentful/dysfunctional kids, and their own damaged bodies.

    by arpie on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:26 pm

  83. I’m not surprised that the haters picking on Joey from the first comment are bitching so much. You are judging Joey, just like Mr. Crumley judges everyone who refuses to get drunk to be judging everyone else. So whether you do or don’t judge people doesn’t depend on your alcohol consumption.

    About the “deep inside” part. I’d rather be judging, than beating my wife. Now I’m done. Come at me haters, and give me more proof that I was right.

    by ed on May 11, 2013 at 4:14 pm

  84. I m not suprised its true

    by mittah on May 17, 2013 at 4:27 am

  85. And I don’t trust heavy drinkers. Heavy drinkers are immature and irresponsible. I’d rather be sober and clear minded than drunken and stupid. By the way, alcohol smells and taste horrible. I hate the stuff.

    by Tanner on Jun 5, 2013 at 10:54 pm

  86. A lot of the non-drinkers sound like sanctimonious hipsters. No one gives a damn why you don’t drink. As someone earlier posted, why are even on this site? Why don’t you think about what the quote means instead of being “so offended”.

    by Ben Toman on Jul 19, 2013 at 11:20 am

  87. This guy was obviously drunk when he came up with this.. Which explains why it doesn’t make any sense at all.

    by Ryan on Feb 12, 2014 at 1:32 am

  88. also wasnt this a quote from a charater in his novel?

    by moi on Apr 5, 2014 at 11:15 pm

  89. Reread that quote, slowly, a couple of times if need be “..occasionally kneels before a toilet…” does not mean “puke your guts out every day or get wasted often.” Occasionally. Some of you are reading too much into something that is not there.

    by This space was intentionally left blank on Jun 1, 2014 at 4:47 pm

  90. that is probably the dumbest quote ever.

    by kickitson on Jul 5, 2014 at 5:29 pm

  91. This is total bullshit. . . in my opinion

    by snoozy suzy on Jul 18, 2014 at 8:33 pm

  92. I don’t drink because I don’t like the taste. I want to drink though. Does that count?

    by Just some nobody on Aug 24, 2014 at 4:52 am

  93. I’m severely allergic to alcohol… in all fairness I would drink if I could.

    Never trust a man who thinks correlation indicates causation, who is convinced his life experiences can be generalized to absolute truth, or who declares another man’s choices indicates a self-righteous judgmental meddler who is the root of all suffering.

    Don’t trust me for that matter. Make your own decisions about who to trust.

    by christophe on Sep 11, 2014 at 2:24 pm

  94. One of the stupidest mentalities in existence. There are very few things that are useless as alcoholic drinks.

    by Tanner Littleton on Sep 17, 2014 at 11:34 am

  95. One of my favorite quotes: “The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue.” ~Dorothy Parker

    by DonnaFaz on Oct 23, 2014 at 6:41 am

  96. So this guy is douche I drink like a fish but my father doesn’t and he’s a good man not pretentious or judgemental

    by Jobblob on Nov 18, 2014 at 11:22 pm

  97. Surely he was the biggest drunkard ever and was just trying to justify his weakness by potrayingvthe good guys as bad. I am sure right now is repenting…

    by vida on Mar 17, 2015 at 1:48 pm

  98. Genisis… Shut up. Go back to church. They fake liking you there

    by Steve Stevenson on Apr 23, 2015 at 3:00 pm

  99. This is garbage! The only times in my life I drank was to hide from myself and my life. To say you can not trust a man who choses to be himself, there is a reason alcohol is called ‘spirits’, is teaching someone it is ok not to face themselves but hide behind a bottle. This article implores hate not love.

    by Leo Read on Sep 7, 2015 at 4:08 pm

  100. Why are the non-drinkers on this site. They should keep their comments and opinions on drinking to themselves. As far as drinkers being different people applies if it is restricted to peg or two. Anything beyond this is damaging to one’s health and not beneficail

    by Rito on Oct 2, 2015 at 2:18 pm

  101. All of the comments are great personal experiences. Having an occasional drink is relaxing. Don’t miss the mess of all the partying to address the realty of feeling life.

    by Jagrrr on Oct 17, 2015 at 9:14 am

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